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themote: good morning
Me: yah how do you do that?
themote: it's not programming
Me: so whats up
themote: hold down the Ctrl key and type a G
Me: what i got this hacking cough
oh ya..that is it?
i could program?
themote: it's not programming
it's just a feature in Yahoo Messenger
Me: i did it ...nothing...no magic
themote: you didn't do it
Me: you are gifted
themote: while holding down the CTRL key, press the g
Me: i have learn to adapt to my less than stellar nonput
ok i will try ...again!
themote: you have to hold it down
Me: are you pulling my leg?
themote: there ya go
Me: is that it just type in ding
ya i know that
but the ctrl button and the g...what does that do?
that's what does this...
Me: i may figure this out one day
did you hear my ding?
themote: it's 2 keys, not much to it
Me: oh to make the ding you do the crtl and g?
Me: no i am not talking ding
but thanks anyway
Me: no i didnt hear that
i think it is not working once you start typing?
it is an attention getter than quits once you type?
themote: anyway...hydrogen vent valve leak
Me: maybe an inbedded program?
so whats wrong with the friggin' seals (g) seals
themote: may not be the seals, could be the plate
Me: they dont know
something says "too cold"
is anything broken?
themote: they won't know until they can get to the hardware
Me: wonders if cold morphs
maybe the material cannot handle the cold extremes and then hot
make silica seals hey a new industry is sprung
got to talk to the rubber band man
themote: these types of umbilicals have been used for decades
Me: i am amazed at how many "components" looks so hodge podge lodge
themote: it's not the materials, more likely an installation problem
Me: umbilicals? i dont get the theory fax me a blueprint of the seals and I'll see what I can do (joke)
i had one of those 3 x's
i had a lot of knots in it..hey your a guy you wont get it
themote: tubes tied eh?
ty i hope but i am flashing now
i know how the shuttle feels
space has no ideas my extremes
back to space...
themote: umbilicals are connections between the ground equipment and the vehicle
Me: so now the window is ...jun 19
i heard there was more than 4% error in the seals
Me: and that was way beyond ok
themote: 4% hydrogen gas present in the area of the umbilical
Me: so it when they open up the valve...i really dont get this so i wont talk about it much...
could you in a nutshell explain the principle of these hydrogen engines for the layperson here
themote: as liquid hydrogen is pumped into the tank, it warms and turns into a gas, that gas is vented overboard, through this valve
Me: why vent?
themote: so that pressure does not build up in the tank
but not too much they were saying they wanted to capture excess venting as it is not good for environment?
themote: no, because it's highly explosive
worse than oxygen?
themote: it is vented out to a flare stack
Me: or gas?
the most volatile substance on earth?
Me: well i have heard of hydrogen bombs
themote: think Hindenburg
Me: that wouldnt happen, right?
they were nuts
some nut probably smoked on the bridge
Me: oh ya
well they didnt configure that?
where i lived they have hot air balloons..fiestas
and they are like so easy a target for nuts with bb guns
no wonder the place secure
themote: hot air ballons at least aren't flammable
Me: did you not see the tape of the one on fire in bc?
the flame got to the balloon or something
it was gone in secs
themote: the envelope burned, not the gas inside
still i thought after that to forgo the scenic hotair ride
well i hope they figure out what it the problem and to fix it...it must be extremely frustrating for all
themote: shuttle engines - when you combine liquid oxygen and liquid hydrogen, it explodes
Me: oh yes that is soooo tricky
i can really empathize with them
themote: they channel that explosion out the nozzles and get thrust
Me: is it a 100% controlled environment?
Me: seems lots of safety in check
themote: so well controlled that they can actually throttle the engines up and down
Me: i mean it is sooo extreme...no way to make safer? maybe...a third gas to stop the process?
themote: you stop it by shutting off either the fuel or oxidizer
so the nozzle or valve lets in how much oxygen to hydrogen?
fine tooth nail comb balance, eh?
themote: 6 parts hydrogen and 1 part oxygen
Me: these ratios are so amazing
what is the reaction called?
Me: will the two bond?
themote: well, the exhaust is steam
Me: combustion = thrust?
themote: controlled combustion = thrust
Me: how to control through the value and the quality of the oxygen and hydrogen
themote: not the valve in question, but yes, the flow rates are controlled by valves
high speed turbopumps feed the fuel and oxidizer into the combustion chamber
about 100 gallons per second
Me: this must be high quality of material how do they combine to get hydrogen, maybe the mix isnt quite right?
themote: no mix, hydrogen is an element
Me: or too good, maybe they went nitro
themote: as is oxygen
Me: it is all chemstry?
themote: the two liquids explode when they come together
Me: that simple?
do they have to measure the atoms first before oking it
Me: like so many atoms ppm?
Me: something getting too cold?
themote: it's pure hydrogen
Me: pure? what do you mean?
almost need a nuclear scientist to test the quality of the fuel because it is hydrogen after all
themote: pure as in hydrogen and nothing but hydrogen
it's not radioactive
Me: get some buddies from our candu to check for ya
i dont know what the heck i'm saying..
themote: nothing nuclear about it
Me: well it looks darn reactionary aka reactor-ish
themote: it's a chemical reaction, not a nuclear reaction
Me: well maybe it is trying to bond
and getting too cold..?
themote: like combining baking soda and vinegar
Me: fusion baby
not that simple?
themote: no fusion, no fission, just chemical reaction
i think there is more to it, but ok
themote: you overthink stuff
Me: when you say hydrogen i go...ohhhh
nuclear sci dept
i talked to the dude at the candu and he is look way out
so just the guy
themote: hydrogen is not radioactive
themote: just flammable
Me: well who knows these atomic bonding principles or reactions they are still so..."?"
themote: the liquid hydrogen is -423ºF
Me: i mean chemically it sounds good all is homeostatic...yet, there may be something else happening?
themote: well, this is very well understood chemistry
Me: so then did they always test for coldness uppers limits..could it go beyond those limits?
Me: -423 another magic unchangeable number
what is your synopsis as to the problem?
themote: no, as the temperature rises, sitting out there in the tank in the Florida sunshine, it boils off, forming a gas
Me: so something is becoming temp unstable?
themote: the current problem is likely a seal between the umbilical and the vehicle
Me: consistency is key?
the seal may need to test for that cold temp again...maybe the product is faulty
what are the seals made of?
themote: by the time it forms a gas, it isn't that cold
Me: rubber! i knew it!
use that tile matter on the seals
Me: oh that is plastic no good
too temp sensitive you want like sand or something that can take both heat and cold?
themote: no, it's rubber and they use these seals in every rocket ever flown
Me: ok so the gates company has you hooked
what about the jones siliia sealers?
no i am not a aerospace engineer maybe a wannabe?
well hope it fixes ...but good they have the safety protocols
sometimes cant see the forest for the trees mentality
themote: yes, not everything is a complex mystery
Me: good to know
do you know a krishmara?
themote: last time, they just removed the umbilical plate and reinstalled it, making sure it was on-center
Me: yes, i heard they were "lucky"
themote: is that a person?
Me: the problem is probably due to faulty material
themote: no, it's not the materials
Me: hey i am not HAL, but ya know..this isnt rocket sci, oh yes it is
ok then what?
themote: it's a problem in how the technicians are mounting the plate, some error in lining it up
Me: oh..ya i heard alignment
Me: just like when i made that LEM in 69 i guess
Me: well it happens
do you get the JEFF?
themote: don't know what that is
Me: it makes no sense to me..the japanese unit they are assembling up there. they got a BIG job ahead of them
3 arms all at once
JEFF AND JELLY odd names! i mean it looks like an add on to the trailerpark...
Me: the names of the new japanese addons
i just dont know why they cant look better
like more streamline
like the old streamline
themote: don't need streamlining in space
Me: ya, i know but the design looks too complicated for the louis k sullivan arts
themote: the Japanese Lab is named Kibo
Me: form follows function I know but this in in excess
i would have made it round everything round like dr evils big boy
themote: it's shaped to fit in the cargo bay of a shuttle
Me: they are so piddly too many little pieces
themote: are you trying to say EF and ELM?
themote: EF, not Jeff
themote: Exposed Facility
Me: i thought i heard jeff
yes, what is that a hallway to the death star?
themote: ELM = Experiment Logistics Module
what is it?
it looks like small but...it isnt why dont they use more telescoping ARRAY thingies
themote: it's a platform attached to the lab for placing experiment and materials out into the vacuum of space
Me: yes, it is a platform, they dont need diving boards in space, but ok
i think it is a reaching platform?
Me: i dont get it at all
themote: there's a picture
i saw pics of it still i dont get the inner workings of it, is there inner workings?
themote: the big thing with NASDA on the side, you see that?
Me: hold on making eggs too ya know
ok got the d/l
oh that's huge!
themote: you see the big module?
Me: how many sections?
themote: 1 thing at a time....do you see the large module with NASDA on the side?
ok, that next picture is of the inside of that module
the "inner workings"
Me: yes like a hallway?
so they have a better method of working outside? somewhere to "stand"
themote: it's the lab
those are equipment racks on the sides
and an airlock at the end
ok, this picture has a person in it so you can gauge the size
themote: a large place for lots of equipment
the EF or Exposed Facility is like a front porch where they can put stuff outside and see how it reacts to space
they use the airlock to move things in and out of the Lab to the EF
Me: is this the first stage this "platform" they are putting up?
themote: and the robot arm allows them to move things around outside without having to do a spacewalk
Me: that's a great idea
themote: no, this is the last part
the smaller module sitting on the big one is a storage area
Me: oh really, wow
it is getting to be this huge huge construct
themote: yep, they are almost done
a couple more modules to go
the spacewalks are to connect all the power, data and plumbing
Me: it is all very amazing
i am overwhelmed at the immensity of the project
wonders how many man hours
themote: most complex engineering feat in human history
millions of man-hours
Me: yes, it would have the pyramids beat
looking at a lot of sweat up there
all very beautiful sweat i might add
themote: and on the ground
Me: yeah, for sure
it must be mostly on the ground..there is a lot of thought into this...and so complex
themote: thousands of people all over the world
Me: yes, all the countries, what a wonderful thing
so all the best scientists worldwide
themote: scientists, engineers, technicians
Me: wonders what the motto of the space station...to boldly go where no one has gone before...?
so what is the group called, the multi nation task force?
themote: the project is called the International Space Station
radio call sign "Alpha"
Me: ok...no mission name?
besides STS 127 seems dull
themote: STS-127 is the shuttle mission
Me: yes but i mean i guess public has to look up to see what is happening...it isnt really clear from the name sts 127
themote: no name for it really, it has an assembly designation of 2J/A
Me: so then the next mission or minmissions are all done in sequence?
oh this is new
themote: new to you I guess
themote: first assembly mission was 1R
Me: i am just back onboard from a hiatus of focusing on other less than worldly thing...but I came back...to SPACE
1R...ok...i like how they think at NASA ...very technical
no the human equation is rather...distant
i mean they need a better name for the projects that elaborate on the specifics so then you go..oh ya i remember sts 127 the EP project
anyway...just my input
well...i guess if the mass public is really interested..they'll TUNE INTO NASAtv!!!
you want more interest, make it more interesting..?
i think they need that now, because the time is now just like it was back in the late 60's
it is a now space happening
ok the nuts and bolts are your business...it is foreign to most ppl
as a reg here..but hey i am a willing learner..things have changed a lot
well i was a time traveller
joke..hey you gettin lunch or launch?
i am trying to find the keys to the shuttle be right back
themote: just watching the screen
Me: ok motie
i had competing fishing show
so i turned off plus nasa tv makes my comp slow
for some unknown reason
themote: just looking at the schedule for today
pretty light schedule
they'll have plenty of time to look out the windows today
Me: so what do the astronauts do, kick back and blog?
themote: well, there's no direct Internet connection on the Station
Me: hey...i guess...it would be like...oh..man..
well each day must be that much $$$ but considering what is invested, peanuts
themote: they can send and receive e-mail over a secure server
themote: the Station crew doesn't have much to do with the shuttle until it
Me: encrypted...you could hack that?
themote: s docked
it's a closed system, no hacking
Me: oh too bad...cant eavesdrop
that would be cool though..maybe i'd pay good money like a reality show
themote: they broadcast mission audio from the Station and have a video downlink
mostly Earth views from the external cameras
Me: yah "safe" no swears kind of pr goodie too shoes stuff
ya i want the grit
oh dang lost another friggin bolt that sort of thing
real nasa behind the scenes or bloopers?
am i sensing ...a spin off?
themote: ReelNASA on YouTube
Me: nasa too square
themote: a lot of behind the scenes video
Me: ya but all so campy and staged
Me: i know even reality tv that way..it is fake ish.oh never mind i meant REAL TIME baby,
themote: have you watched the videos?
Me: that is too much to ask
themote: well, there's real-time communications from the Station to the ground
it's broadcast 24/7
Me: maybe astronauts are just plain boring?
themote: the astronauts talking to all the centers
Me: ok it just doesnt bring in mass appeal..need more soap operas from space to get the public to "buy in" lots of $$$ in that!
themote: well, they are there to do science, not entertainment
Me: ohhhh need to eat some food..yes food that would help(maybe?)
yes that is my problem
i have a job to do i cannot entertain as well
i need extra for that
well anyway. back to the routine
themote: ok, adios
Me: ok tanks
chat on the upside
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